Phidias payout rules: daily, 10-day and 5-day clocks
Three account families, three payout clocks and two different splits. The rules per family and what the LIVE conversion changes. All 40 firms side by side: prop firm payout rules compared.
Payout rules
| Rule | Phidias |
|---|---|
| Express to Live | daily from the first Cash day; 80/20 plus a fixed bonus and live credit on conversion; the account becomes a LIVE account with Dorman Trading on the first Cash payout |
| Fundamental | every 10 days; 80/20; 30% consistency on Cash; 10 qualifying days between payouts at $150 (50K) / $200 / $250 |
| Premium | every 5 days; 75% → 80% → 85% → 90% → 100% from the fifth payout; 5 qualifying days between requests; one Cash reset ($399 / $499 / $599) |
| Processing | Phidias Wallet; the firm claims 90% of requests under 30 minutes |
| LIVE upgrades | Fundamental and Premium LIVE upgrades are discretionary; Express to Live converts by rule |
What it means for a systematic strategy
Express to Live is the only family where the path to a real account is a rule rather than a review, and the only one with no distribution check at payout. Fundamental and Premium both check 30% on the Cash account, so the sizing discipline from other firms applies: no day above roughly a quarter of the cycle profit. Premium’s five-payout ladder to 100% rewards staying with one account; a reset resets the ladder.
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FAQ
How often does Phidias pay?
Daily on Express to Live from the first Cash day; every 10 days on Fundamental; every 5 days on Premium.
What is the Phidias profit split?
80/20 on Express to Live and Fundamental; Premium starts at 75% and reaches 100% from the fifth payout.
Source: the firm’s help center and program pages, cross-checked with the Phidias rules card, September 2026. Rules change quarterly; the help center is binding.